Ep #102. The Art of Manifestation with Jamie Berman

Hi, friends. Welcome back. So I have a special guest on today.
Jamie Berman, who is my guest, is a master's certified coach with a background in
spiritual psychology, specializing in manifestation and the energetics of money.
She has coached thousands of clients, helping them change the beliefs, habits, and
behaviors that keep them from making the kind of money they truly deserve in their
business. Jamie's clients stop under earning and go on to make six figures and
beyond without overworking or hustling. She teaches that money isn't something that
happens to us, but something that we have the power to create through our mindset
and contribution. Jamie lives in Los Angeles and Maui with her husband and little
dog, Millie. And with that, I would like to welcome Jamie. I'm so excited to be
here. I'm so excited to be here too and if my regular listeners haven't figured out
like the common denominators of the Los Angeles Maui connection and the little dog
that we both have because we both have little white dogs there is an actually
bigger connection between Jamie and I while Jamie and I are both coaches and We
actually have a lot of friends in common and have gone on retreats together and
Obviously, we should both share homes in Los Angeles and Maui, but there is a
wonderful story about how we first met So should I tell it or should of you? I
think we both tell it Maybe I'll start and then you can come in with the second
part. So yes So this is what's wild. I am right now sitting in Jackie's old office
in Los Angeles in her old room, which how that happened and how we met.
So my husband and I, this was eight years ago now in April. We were looking for a
house for the longest time. I think it was a year and a half that we were looking
at houses, needed a home that had enough space for my husband who is a musician
who has a recording studio, which isn't like the easiest thing to find, you know,
you need a big space for that. So we were looking, we put two offers down on
different houses, both of them fell through. And then we happened to see Jackie's
home. And we were like, let's go see it. And we didn't know Jackie at the time at
all. Like, we were total strangers. But we came to see the house and our real
estate agent are one of our I don't know what happened but the timing was wrong we
were supposed to come later or something like that there was miscommunication and so
we show up and Kurt your husband answers the door and we're like oh I'm so sorry
and like they were like sorry I thought it was a different time the realtors
weren't there so he's like it's okay it's totally cool we'll give you a tour so he
shows us around, we were like, oh my God, this house has amazing energy. Kurt was
so sweet. And it was just what we envisioned. Like, I had been manifesting this
house. This was the one. Like, I wanted it to be bright, lots of natural light
coming through. It had this space for the studio, had the beautiful view that we
loved, had the pool, like, everything I envisioned this house had. We loved the
neighborhood. And then as the process was going, of course, we buy the house and as
we're going through inspections and all that fun stuff, we met, right? That's when
we met Jackie, wasn't it? Yes, yes, yes. And yeah, just started connecting. I
remember meeting Blaze too through this whole process of like, we kept having to
come back to the house for the inspections and different things that you do when
you're buying a house. And I fell in love with Jackie's dog, Blaze. It's so cute.
And I was like, Josh, we need to manifest a dog like this. This is what I want.
- And now you have Millie who looks just like Blaze. - Exactly. He was totally my
inspiration for Millie, 100%. 'Cause I never thought about getting a little fluffy
dog before. And he would always come sit on my lap and it was just the cutest
thing in the world. So the reason Millie is here is thanks to Blaze and that whole
thing. And then as We met, you, yeah, I think we were just talking cause you were
still an executive. - I was still an executive and I was actually transitioning to
producing for the two years that I was a producer. And I was moving back to Maui,
because I had been back and forth, back and forth. I had not decided on coaching
yet, although it was something that I had talked about like a decade before that
someday I would do this. And I just sort of put it on the back burner. a mutual
friend or neighbor was visiting me in Maui. And she had said, "Oh,
I talked to Jamie." And I said, "Jamie." And she said, "Yeah, the woman who bought
your house." And I was like, "Oh." And she said, "She's a coach." And at that time
I had just started my coaching certification. And that's when I contacted you. And
I'm like, "I'm in coaching certification." You're like, "How can I help you?" And we
became friends through that. And then it turns out we have now like a million
friends in common it's so weird and then we became friends and then you bought your
home on Maui and so now I see you here or I see you there it's just amazing it's
amazing I know it's well and I actually remember Kurt saying when we came he was
like oh yeah we're moving to Maui and I said that's where we're moving next I was
like we're gonna live in this house and then we're gonna move to Maui which wilds
so many synchronicities within that yes a hundred percent. And we also bought that
house as newlyweds. So I think that like spoke to us and it was incredible
serendipity. So anyway, that's the origin story of how I met Jamie. And then we
have been friends ever since and obviously share the common love of coaching,
but we do a very different style of coaching. The core work is the same mindset
work and energetic work and all the things. but you are very specifically a
manifestation coach. And so I would love you to describe that for my audience and
talk about really what that means. - Yeah, so manifestation is something that I've
kind of was secretly into for a lot of my life. I mean, I feel like it was just
something that spoke to me from a young age, even at 11 years old, I used to
watch Oprah with my mom she my mom used to clean houses and I would go like on
days that I was sick and she'd always have Oprah on and I would see like Wayne
Dyer and you know all these people luster hicks and all of that and I was just
intrigued by it at that time and I remember even at like 11 years old picking up
a book that was one of my grandmas was sitting around her house and it was on
intuition and I read it from cover to cover and it just spoke to me so I was
really into it And especially after college, I graduated in 2009,
which was like the worst time ever to graduate because it was during the crash and
everything. And people were like, there's no jobs. So I was like, okay, so I moved
back home, was living in my parents' basement, not ideal. I was working at Neiman
Marcus, absolutely hated it because I was the youngest person there.
The women that worked there, it was in the cosmetics department. They were, you
know, had been there for years, had their clientele. It's 100 % commission. So talk
about like an environment that's kind of sharky. Like they did not want me talking
to anyone. They would be so mean to me if I did. So it's just like, something's
got to change. This is horrible. So I remember every night I would come home. I'm
sleeping in this room in my parents' basement. Like this is not what I pictured
after college. But I just kept reading manifestation books and started actually like
doing the practices that came along with it and decided I wanted to manifest living
in Los Angeles. And so I just started like picturing it, writing it down, pictured
the vision of it, which made like no sense because I was making 100 % commission,
which meant I was making barely anything because these ladies would not let me sell
anything. So I was making very little money, but I saved all of it.
And it was like, I'm going to move out to LA. I ended up doing it. And I think
what blew my mind was one year from that time, I had had this vision that seemed
so out of reach. But one year from then, I had this insight where I was like,
oh my gosh, wait, this is the vision. All of these wild synchronicities just kept
happening. Of course, I had to take the courageous action, take the leap of after
saving $6 ,000 in a year, that was the money that I had and I had my car and I
drove out to LA. And yeah, it was just wild. This girl that I knew in college was
like, hey, we have a place, it's a lot of roommates, but you know, it's $500 a
month. You can come live here. It was in the hills of Los Feliz, like right under
the observatory, beautiful, beautiful location. And it had that exact view that I
envisioned. And also little by little, all of the roommates kept moving out, leaving,
you know, getting in relationships. So I ended up having this house to myself for
like a year and a half. Wow. Yeah. And that's when I was like,
Wait, Manifestation is real. This is wild. How is this happening to me? And I just
feel like I leaned into it all through my 20s because it was challenging.
I didn't have my parents' support and I was living out in LA basically just trying
to start my life, trying to become a makeup artist and manifested an amazing career
doing that. Of course, I always say manifestation isn't just envisioning, it's also
having the courage to take the action towards the vision and taking the leaps of
faith. But I really created this incredible life that was what I just envisioned.
And so that's how I initially got into it, but I didn't start coaching on it at
first. 'Cause even when we met, I was doing coaching. It was, I wanted to pick
kind of something that was safe. And I thought manifestation little too woo woo. I
was like, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about that. Right. So I was
like, that's okay. I'll do that secretly in my life, but I'm going to coach on
weight loss for women with PCOS. So that's what I did for the first year and a
half. And I really created a successful business. I love coaching at at its ports.
I'm a sex right. And so that part was amazing. But it just felt like I was
leaving this huge part of my life out of it. - Yeah. - And it didn't feel fully
aligned. It wasn't what I wanted to be talking about. And I realized like so much
of the business that I created was through these manifestation practices and leaning
into universal principles and all of this that I had also studied spiritual
psychology really just for myself, but I brought all of that work into my business.
And that's how it was growing and people were asking me, how are you doing this?
And I'm like, well, this is actually what I'm doing here. But like, you know what
I mean? So like, finally, I realized like, I just was so unhappy in my niche,
doing PCOS coaching. And I felt like it wasn't me. So it was a whole process to
come out as a manifestation coach and as a money coach. But once I did,
once I felt like I was just fully authentically me, my business grew even more with
just a lot more ease and now it just feels like home.
It's like what I love teaching and it's fun because my clients get amazing results
too and they love, they love learning this stuff. Of course. So let's talk,
let's go back a bit because that's such a great jumping off point that manifestation
is not just a wish. It's not like, oh, I'd like to be a millionaire, or oh, I
would like to have a house in the South of France. Like that's lovely. - Yeah,
that's step one. I'm like, that's step one of many steps. - Yeah, so talk about the
difference between laying on your sofa and imagining that you're rich and that you
have all these beachside homes and all the things. - Totally. And I think that's the
biggest misconception whenever it comes to Manifestation and I think much of it comes
from a lot of people watched the documentary or read the book the secret Which is
wonderful But yes only piece of manifestation that that book and that Documentary
teaches is like love attraction. So they only teach you what I call step one of
manifestation Which is Deciding what you want like deciding for a bigger possibility
for yourself step one is kind of claiming it. But there's so much more that goes
into it, which is, you know, there's also a law of action, right, which is taking
leaps of faith, like really listening to your intuition and acting on what comes up
and not getting scared of it, right? So you have to take leaps of faith and
actually go after it. Yeah. So yeah, there's, there's so much more to it than just
that. But I think the main misconception is that you do just sit on your couch or
just supposed to visualize it. I'm like, no, the reason you visualize it is because
that vision, if it is actually an alignment for you, and if you actually feel lit
up by that vision, you're going to come out of that vision and get super inspired
to take action towards it. That's really the purpose of going to these visuals and
seeing it, because it's going to spark something within you, because you've seen a
new reality for yourself. So for me, whenever I start seeing it, it's like, I want
to start acting towards it. I want to start and a lot of it you have to learn
skills a lot of times, right? Yes, it's not like you just envision the business
that you want. It's like, no, I did that. But then I'm like, Ooh, who is my first
goal was because I've had to do a lot of work around money personally, I had set
like a hundred thousand dollar money goal in my business. And the way that I did
it was I would say who is the version of me who makes a hundred thousand dollars
in business and like how do I need to fill in those gaps? What do I need to
learn? Who do I need to become? How do I need to think? What new habits do I
need to create? What habits do I need to let go of? Having that vision helps me
see, oh, who is that person? And like, how can I align with that?
Yeah. That's how I think of manifestation. So let me start with step one as a
question. And I don't want to get two in the weeds. I'm not going to ask you to
like teach the audience. But it's an interesting one,
because that's something we share in This is although I don't coach on manifestation,
I coach obviously on anxiety and better work life balance and more holistic,
but the piece about knowing what you want, the setting of a goal is where I sort
of start, right? Because that's the framework in which I work from. And a lot of
times I'll get clients who have kind of lost everything. They'll either have lost a
job or they'll have lost a relationship or they're kind of at a midlife crisis
point. That's a very common one when they come to me. And they've lost their
ability to dream. They've had it. Maybe they've gotten all the things. They've been
married. They've got a house. They've got a car. They had a big career or
something. Something has happened that has caused a bump in the road.
Maybe that they created or some other circumstance created and then they'll get on
with me and they're like I don't know what my goals are yeah when somebody comes
to you and they're trying to manifest a better future or a better relationship with
money or to have money yeah but they can't even see a close step or a big step
they can't even see the mansion on the hill as we were totally where do you start
with somebody like that who's been kicked to the curb by something and has lost
their belief. Oh, I, and I've seen this. So, I mean, this is common, right?
Because this happens and it's real. And the way that I look at it is I just think
that there's different seasons that we go through in life. And I don't think every
season is meant to be a space where we are envisioning something huge and expansive
for ourselves. If we've been kicked to the curb, it might be a season of healing.
Like that might be the goal, is healing, feeling better, right?
Getting yourself to a place where you're more grounded within yourself. Maybe just
getting back to, I can breathe again, right? Like that might be the goal and that's
totally fine and that's enough 'cause I believe once we go through that process of
healing, the goal's gonna come to you. The idea might come to you. I just think
once we go through the healing process, then it's like, then we can think about
what's next. - Yeah. - Versus trying to force ourselves to think about a future when
we're not even believed for like, "Ah, what am I doing with my life?" Right?
- Yeah. - It can be hard. So I never recommend setting goals out of your mind or
out of a should or telling yourself that you have to have some big desire. It's
more like if you just ask yourself, what do I want? What would be amazing? Like if
one year from now, my life could be different, what might that look like?
And I think asking those kind of questions will reveal the answer. I mean, I teach
money a lot. And I always tell people like, sometimes it's better to not have a
money equal, right? Like, it's like, ask yourself, is this the time to have a money
goal or not? If you're in burnout, if you've been hustling, if you've been like,
maybe just breathe, maybe just decide to make what you've been making or even let
it be a little bit less totally okay, right? It's not like there is better than
here. You want to set a goal when you're in a place of having a vision for
yourself or when it feels expansive and it it does light you up. So that's kind of
the way that I teach it. - That's a really good distinction. 'Cause like I said,
I think that healing season is so important. And I think that probably when people
come to me, I'm dealing with a lot of healing. - Yeah, it makes so much sense
totally. And I've had seasons like that myself. I mean, usually you'll intuitively
know what season am I in. And yeah, I asked myself that question a lot too.
Like what is it that I really need? Yeah. So in the money manifestation aspect of
your teachings and your niche, what do you find are the most common money blockers?
Because I think we all kind of have the same ones, but some of us just aren't
aware of them. So what do you see in your practice as very common ones? Yeah,
well, it's going to be money blocks are really just the beliefs that you're carrying
around about money or about yourself in regards to money. And many of them we take
on from like childhood, right? They come before we're even like eight years old
before our conscious mind was even formed. And so a lot of times we kind of take
on the beliefs that our parents had or what we were taught or told most often. And
so yeah, a lot of not thinking it's possible for someone like me. It's like,
Oh, I'm not smart enough. I'm not pretty enough. I'm not good enough. I'm not lucky
enough, right? All of these kind of like, or I don't, or I don't come from money.
Yes, that's huge. Or I'm not deserving. Yep. Yep. And I think another big one is
that the people that they've seen around them most often that have money,
don't look like them. So they're like, I couldn't possibly see someone who makes
money as is, I would have to fit myself into that box to do it. And that's the
kind of stuff that I like to dismantle because it's not true at all. Right?
Like there is a way in which you can be so you with your unique gifts that you
already have not change a thing and make the money that you want, but we have to
let go of this idea that you have to be someone else or you have to look like
this or be like that because then you'll never do it. Right. Yeah. Another one that
comes up a lot. And again, I don't coach specifically on this. It'll come up as a
symptom of something else, more money, more problems, right? As much as they want
it, they repel it because they see people with money as having problems or they
think they will have problems. - Totally. - And how do you unpack that when?
- Yeah, I think it's just something to question because as I've looked at my life,
problems don't go away, but I think having money like makes it a lot easier to
have conveniences in life. So in many ways, I see that the more money I've made,
the less problems I've had because it the way all of those problems that I have,
when I couldn't afford things, right? Like important things. So I actually started
looking at that, like, is that true, right? Like, is that actually true?
We have this idea in our mind that it is, but it's like, also what's gonna be
easier when you have more money? What's gonna be better when you have more money,
right? What's gonna be simpler when you have more money. So I started taking on
this belief that the more money that I have, the easier it is, right? Like, you
know, and that life is still 50, 50, I always think of it like we still have
obstacles and problems, but it's not like having more money is giving you more
obstacles. It might be different ones, but then there's also things that are going
to be a lot easier.
How often do you see somebody who doesn't come from money or didn't think they were
capable of earning their own money? Then they start to earn money, and then they
either waste it, burn it, or gamble it away. Well, the people that I work with are
usually, I mean, we see this in the world a lot. I mean, you see it with lottery
winners, right? It's like, someone talking about that because not everybody knows that
statistic. It's a nominal statistic. - Yes, it's like over, I think it's around like
80 % of lottery winners end up losing all of their money plus some within like
three years, which is wild. And this isn't just winning $1 ,000. This is the people
who are winning like multiple millions of dollars. And I always say, it really does
show that you have a energetic set point of what you're available for,
of what you are, what you feel comfortable with, right? It's like because that, that
show you see people make money and they're not available for it. Yeah. So I see
that out in the world with that, but I don't see it within my clients because
they're working with me. So we catch that stuff before it happens. And I work with
people kind of long term, like that's why actually, I would say like my program is
actually a whole year and some people even do a second year because we go through
the whole evolution. We go through the phase of like actually learning how to create
money and believing that you can make money and then once they start making money,
there's a whole new set of stuff we need to work on, especially for people who
didn't come from it because they don't really know how to be with it. So we work
on that and the mindset that's coming up and the part of them that doesn't think
they're doesn't, you know, know how to hold on to it and wants to just get rid of
it right away. Yes. We work through it as we go. And that's why I like,
especially around money, working with people a little bit more long term, because I
do find that there are phases of different things we need to work on. Yeah.
I've had several clients who have been very good at earning money. They're good
workers. They're talented in their fields. and they talk about when they lose a job
or a gig or a career how money there is no money and I'll say where did it go
you know because they've earned a lot over their lifetime and they'll say I don't
know yeah so there's like no accountability to it they just kind of presumed it
flowed in and then they let it flow out which is nothing wrong with that. Totally.
Except it was done unconsciously. Yeah. You know, and without any kind of respect or
awareness. And they admit that that was because they never felt deserving of it.
Yes. Yes. There's a really interesting discovery. Isn't it wild? Yes.
100 % or just don't feel comfortable with it or think people won't like them if
they have it, right? If we hold these beliefs, It's wild because you can make all
the money, but yeah, you can't hold on to it. So that's a whole nother piece of
like money manifestation or money mindset work that makes all the difference. Yeah. A
lot of times I've had it when I've said, what happens when you make a lot of
money? And when I say a lot of money, I'm talking about a good living. I'm not
talking about, you know, tens of millions of dollars, but I'm talking about like a
really good living. And they'll say, as they start to unpack it, there was guilt or
name around out earning their parent, that they felt somehow,
even though money was scarce growing up and they hated it, they were nervous that
their parent would somehow not love them or reject them or be jealous of them or
resentful of them. And so then if they were bad with money, meaning spent it all,
gave it all away, that then their parents couldn't be resentful of how much they
made. - I know. - But it's all unconscious. It's not a conscious. - Totally. And
we're like, yeah, and then it's just confusing 'cause when you're not aware of
what's going on like that, and that's why that's the power of hiring a coach,
right? And having somebody help observe these things and look at what's going on
deep down. - Yeah. - Because if you don't heal that, then it just feels like, God,
what's wrong? Like, what's wrong with me? Why can't I stop this? Why Why is this a
petty makes no sense? And you know, it just feels like constant sabotage or
something Well, and the other component of it, I believe is inherited trauma So I
think what happens is if the parent or the grandparent is such where money was
scarce or lost Due to circumstances beyond their control or otherwise Then they
believe that that's the curse of their family Yeah, and so they perpetuate the curse
by not addressing the fact that they didn't inherit the trauma. They inherited the
thoughts. Yeah. But it's not a thing. It's not a disease. And you can change it.
Yeah. Can change the way that you're thinking. Yeah. The other thing, and tell me
if this is something you see in your practice, because again, we're dealing with
manifestation. And manifestation comes in lots of things. People, it might be money,
it might be careers, it might be a new place to live like you wanted to live in
Los Angeles. It might be a healthier life, but a lot of times manifestation is
around love. People will come and say, I want to find a partner. It might be a
spouse. Sometimes people don't use the word spouse. They just say a partner. And
what's so interesting is I often see that same core belief. They're not tied to
money, but it's tied to self -worth. And so when people aren't finding the right
partner or even somebody to go out with, it's because they don't think they're
deserving. Yeah. Do you see that in your practice as well? Well, I don't work with
that specifically, but I do think it's like pretty much all the same,
no matter what we're manifesting, because my clients, once they learn manifestation,
they end up applying it to all different things. Like I had a client reach out to
me. Oh my gosh, I pregnant right recently. Like all these different things because
they apply the same things do it. But I think it's so true because it's like when
we're going after something from a place of not enough, not deserving,
like we're thinking that thing is going to make me whole, right? Whether that's
money or success or a relationship when we're approaching it from once I have that
it's going to make me whole, we get really attached to that thing. It feels really
important to have it, right? And then we just go about it in all the wrong ways
and it feels terrible as we're approaching that thing, right? And the misconception
is that that thing can make you whole. So when we're looking for something to make
us whole, it's never going to work. It's never, right? And so it's like that,
like you said, you have to heal that first, the part of you, if you're attached to
something, you have to look at why. Usually it is because you think it's going to
make something better in your life, or it's going to make you feel whole, it's
going to make you feel X, Y, or Z. And so I always work with clients on looking
at why they're attached and really releasing attachment to it, coming into a place
of fullness within themselves. And what I find is it's wild. Like my clients when
they have that shift, yeah, damn it happens. Like the thing just happens.
Yeah, it's that internal work that shifts things. And that's what creates the
manifestation. Totally, totally. It's like you are just on a different energetic
level. But right, you attract someone completely different where you're like, Oh,
like, this is a completely different experience. And this is what I wanted. But it
feels so different than I thought it would. Yeah, in a good way, though. Yeah, I
think otherwise, what happens is people just keep repeating the same mistakes. So
back to the lottery winner. Yeah, they win the lottery, which is unbelievable. And
then the money is gone in three years. And it's because they haven't done the work
of deserving or believing or whatever. And so then the money just goes. And I think
that's what happens with relationships. So I think people do find sometimes the right
partner and they sabotage it because they don't think they deserve it or they never
find the right partner because they keep choosing the wrong partners and not that
there's a formula 'cause there isn't but they keep choosing the wrong partners
because they think that's all they deserve. Yeah. I had a teacher tell me once, if
you see something happening more than like three times and it feels like the same
situation, right? Like if it's happening in patterns, it may be something to look at
within, right? Like especially that feels not to blame yourself, but that's the most
empowering approach you can take. That's where you can actually take agency and say,
wait, I seem to keep attracting the same person, different face, what's going on
here. Like what's going on with me that this keeps happening and that's where it
can be helpful to explore with someone like you, right? And have a neutral observer
help pull out what's going on. - Well, yeah, ask the right questions. - Yeah. - Yeah.
- Totally. - 'Cause we don't have the answers, that's not what coaching is. Coaching
isn't about the answers, it's about asking the questions. - Yeah, exactly. - And
discovering the answers together. Yeah, totally. So tell me or tell our audience how
the different ways people can work with you. I know you have a big retreat coming
up very soon and it will still be open to apply by the time this airs.
Yeah, so talk about your retreat and then talk about your programs. Yeah, so I have
the abundance retreat which is coming up in September 20th and 21st and it's going
to be amazing. It's my third retreat. Everyone so far has been incredibly magical
and transformational. I started doing retreats and I started seeing the power of it.
I feel like when you get into a retreat, it's like going into a different kind of
vortex where I feel like it speeds things up. The transformation happens fast.
So my clients have loved these retreats and I'm doing one September, this one,
the focus is all around abundance and healing your relationship with money, expanding
into more abundance. It's around 20 people, so it's enough to where you'll meet
amazing people, but I really like to be very hands -on and be able to work with
everyone. And this one is in San Diego, yes? San Diego, yep. Okay, yep. And is it
women only? It's not necessarily, but I do attract. So far,
everyone that's coming is women. Every retreat I've had is women. But if a man
wanted in, he totally could. Like I have a couple men in my program too. And is
it entrepreneurs? Is that the predominant? So small business owners,
entrepreneurs, all things. Okay. What's your other program? Yeah. So I have a program
called the Money Manifestation Movement, which is the one -year program that I was
talking about, and it's helping entrepreneurs just up -level their money mindset,
up -level their relationship with money, heal any of those patterns, wounds,
kind of release any of the blocks that might have gotten in the way to help you
gain awareness around that and release it and let it go. So yeah, that's my other
program and it's amazing. I've been running that for a little over two years. And
I've just I love the people in there. It's a great fantastic program.
It's been amazing to see the growth of everyone. And it's a group program. I love
working with groups. I mean, I've had so many of my clients who have never even
gotten coached by me, but they've watched either the replays of the group calls or
come to the group calls and just watch and seeing other people get coached and it's
like, Oh my gosh, like it releases so much shame. Like, Oh, they think like that
too. Oh, they had that come up and you can really get coaching just through
watching the coaching. Yes. So I think it's really healing doing it in that context
that can be. That's that's great. Yeah. Well, they're lucky to have you because
you're such a positive energy and you're so optimistic. And I love like every time
we get to sit down together, whether it's on the phone or on Zoom or in person. I
just feel this warm energy and this place of compassion.
And it's just amazing. So your clients are so lucky to have you guide them.
Oh, you too. I feel like every time we get together, we could just talk forever.
It's true. I love it. I know. Such a ship, which is so amazing that two ships
would sort of pass through the night on a purchase of a house and that we would
be reunited years later in the same field. It's just wild. I love it. On the same
island. On the same island. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Well, Jamie, I just want to thank you so much for taking the time and talking to
my audience today about manifestation and money and coaching and all the good things.
And I just love seeing you and I appreciate it so much. - I'm so grateful. Thank
you for having me. - All right, I'll talk to you soon. - Bye. - Bye.